A viral post on Facebook about the “slow cashier” provides this example of a common error made by many. Two errors, in fact, in one paragraph:
He also said that she has enough leaves that could be availed (and get paid for sitting at home) but Premlata chose to come to work because she wanted to retire with dignity.
It is never plural, in the context of leave from work. You have “enough leave”
You always “avail of” something. The second word is required.
Despite attempts by the Times of India group to change the English language, there is no such word as “upto”. It is two words, “up to”. Don’t believe it? Grab your trusty dictionary (provided that it wasn’t published by the Times of India). Or Google it.
Let’s look at instances of valid English that would not make sense outside India. Consider this dialogue in India:
Q. Why did you do that?
A. Like that only.
A. Just like that.
Even an Indian knows that the answer makes no sense, but lots of people continue to talk like that. What would happen in the West?
Q. Why did you do that?
A. No idea.
A. Search me.
A. I can’t explain it.
etc
There are many other possibilities. Some of them don’t make literal sense either.
Let’s look at examples of the shortage/abuse of articles in India, particularly Northern India. (By “articles”, I refer to grammar — “a” and “the” are indefinite and definite articles). See Wikipedia.
Wrong: He has gone to office.
Right: He has gone to the office.
Explanation: He has gone to one specific office.
Wrong: She is eating mango.
Right: She is eating a mango.
Explanation: She is eating one mango – some random mango.
Wrong (no other information is known): She is eating the mango.
Right (note emphasis): She is eating the mango.
Explanation: She is eating a specific mango, perhaps one that has some significance, e.g. it is the only one in a bunch injected with poison. (It happens in fiction!)
Wrong: She likes to eat the mangoes.
Right: She likes to eat mangoes.
Wrong: I am doing some time pass.
Right: I am killing time.
Explanation: Passing time has morphed to “time pass”, which is a nice turn of phrase, but makes you look uneducated when you say it outside India.
Sometimes, people forget their high school grammar lessons. This poor soul has given us an example of bad spelling, bad grammar and bad logic (source):
if we really wants to kill terrorism from root then we should take some actions on that places where we know that terrorist are feeded by people for terrorism.We should start form the KASAB sitting in the prison and having fledge service of prison these is the one who is responsible of taking innocent people’s life in mumbai terror attacks.
Another common mispronunciation (मिसप्रोंन्सीऐशन)
Incorrect: कमेन्ट
Correct: कॉमेन्ट (Emphasis in bold)
The “co” has a कॉ sound, not क. Isn’t English confusing? 🙂
How many English errors can you cram into a single document? Ask the ICAI. I saw a post that asked for a technical interpretation of the following document:
GUIDELINES FOR PERMITTING THE CHARTERED ACCOUNTANTS/FIRMS OF CHARTERED ACCOUNTANTS TO POST THEIR PARTICULARS AT WEBSITE
For what it’s worth, it is refreshing to contrast these guidelines with the UK counterpart – see Section 250, which have a more commonsense approach.
Let’s pick some holes in this document, not to disparage the authors but as examples or poor English.
The misuse of articles (a, an, the) is apparent in the following sentences:
The Council at its meeting held in January, 2001 approved the detailed guidelinesfor posting the particulars on Website
The main problem above is “on Website”. This isn’t Hindi, so it should be “on their website”. The other problem is “approved the detailed guidelines”, where “the detailed” begs the question, “Were there some other, less detailed guidelines?” – I believe the following would convey the same meaning:
The Council at its meeting held in January 2001 approved guidelines for members’ websites.
Another one:
1. The Chartered Accountants and/or Chartered Accountants’ Firms
Let’s ignore the fact that the writer can’t decide whether “Firms” needs an initial capital or not, so both versions are used in the document.
It might have been better to say:
Chartered Accountants in sole practice or in partnerships…
The following text is simply confusing:
(8) Display of Passport size photograph is permitted.
Is that a photograph the size of a passport, or the size of a photo that you would submit with a passport application? Should they give the dimensions in millimetres?
The writers don’t seem to know that PC monitors can have different resolutions, e.g. 1024×768 pixels, 1280×1024 etc, so the dimension of an image should be specified in pixels.
Thankfully, the following text was removed:
Except the neither link to nor information about any other Website is permitted.
We’ll never know what the author intended to convey.
And now for the technical mess of a paragraph that led me to this topic:
3.The Chartered Accountants and/or Chartered Accountants’ Firms would ensure that their Websites are run on a “pull” model and not a “push” model of the technology to ensure that any person who wishes to locate the Chartered Accountants or Chartered Accountants’ firms would only have access to the information and the information should be provided only on the basis of specific “pull” request.
I’d love to meet the person who can explain the above. Let’s try to second-guess the writer here:
Another equally baffling paragraph:
4.The Chartered Accountants and/or Chartered Accountants’ Firms should ensure that none of the information contained in the Website be circulated on their own or through E.mail or by any other mode or technique except on a specific “pull” request.
What does “circulated on their own” mean? Do we see words flying through the air of their own accord? If they meant to say, “Do not spam or solicit for work through email”, they should have said that.
In earlier paragraphs, the members were subjected to the tortuous either/or clause “The Chartered Accountants and/or Chartered Accountants’ Firms” but now firms seem exempt from the following rule:
5.The Chartered Accountants would also not issue any circular or any other advertisement or any other material of any kind whatsoever by virtue of which they solicit people to visit their Website.
Whose logo are they referring to in the sentence below?
7) Since Chartered Accountants in practice/firms of Chartered Accountants are not permitted to use logo with effect from 1st July, 1998, they cannot use logo on Website also.
More Hindi English here. You need an article before “logo” but in this case you need to mention a specific logo. You do not end a sentence with “also”, except when speaking Indian English at the bus stop. I think they mean that a member cannot display the logo of the ICAI. Surely they can display their own logo?
Another common Indian English error:
9) The members may include articles, professional information, professional updation and other matters of larger importance or of professional interest.
Updation? Which dictionary contains that word? What is wrong with using the word “update”? Sadly, ill-educated Indians have absorbed that word en masse and it can be seen in the Indian English Dictionary. But of course – the venerable Times of India uses this abomination, so what hope is there for the common man?
Again, there was no need to begin the paragraph with “The”. Simply “Members may” would suffice. Several other paragraphs can dispense with the definite article at the beginning of sentences.
Another horror of a paragraph:
11) The chat rooms can be provided which permit chatting amongst members of the ICAI and between Firms and its clients. The confidentiality protocol would have to be observed.
Why not say:
Chat rooms are permitted, provided that client confidentiality is maintained.
My oh my:
13) The listing on suitable search engine should be permitted. However, the field of search should be restricted only to the field of “Chartered Accountants” or “CA” or “Indian CA”, “Indian CPA”, “Indian Chartered Accountant” or any permutation or combination related thereto.
Is the wise Council of the ICAI suggesting that end users such as myself can only use Google to search for the above words if my objective is to find a long-suffering Indian CA? I recommend that they learn more about search engines before writing these gems.
23) The Website should mention the date upto which it is updated
Only in India do they join the words “up to”. Clue: this isn’t “unto”. Keep the words apart.
The guidelines have many more errors, but I’ll leave it at that.
There are some old posts elsewhere that tell you how to view (and write) Devanagari posts in WordPress. Mostly they say you should enable FireFox as follows: Tools > Options > Content > Default Font Times New Roman > Advanced > Western > Default Character Encoding = Unicode (UTF-8) If only it were that easy today (WP 2.7.1). My problem wasn’t the above – I could view other blogs containing Devanagari words but my post below was not saving the Devanagari contents. Here is my How-To:
Laloo Yadav’s speech in Parliament is a fine example of an ailing Indian English. It kicks off this website’s first post. Enjoy!